ComixTALK: DRAFT List of 100 Greatest Webcomics: Comedy and Drama
Blank
· 11 months ago
It's like you've got every comic except "Sam and Fuzzy" on here. Highly comedic. www.samandfuzzy.com
Stan Yan
· 11 months ago
How about these: www.subculturecomic.com and www.squidworks.com/Revvvelations. SubCulture is a hilarious and insightful look at geek culture of a variety of types. It has been critically-acclaimed as a comic book mini-series and continues to get great chatter as an ongoing webcomic. REVVVelations is a humorous action-adventure comic that pokes fun at politics and religion through the window of a post-apocalyptic car race. It's been a very popular webcomic, climbing to WCN's all-time top 16 to-date. Thanks for your consideration.
Accomplishments? It's the longest-running movie themed web comic online with over 900 comics to my credit. I've self-published two books, soon to release a third and I've been interviewed by this site more than a couple of times.
I'm not deluded enough to think I rank anywhere higher than 101. But dammit, I'm throwing my hat in the ring!
Mr. Lostman
· 11 months ago
In case you're not sold, Sam and Fuzzy has a Wikipedia page and the author has an ongoing feud with Jeph Jacques. Sold?
mrs_claypool
· 11 months ago
I think you're missing at least three that should be in the top ten in drama:
Eric Millikin's "Fetus-X"/"Eric Monster" comic. Not that I need to explain this because you just did an interview with him, but it's one of the most unique webcomics, it's critically acclamied, and it's one of the few webcomics to have been printed in newspapers and shown in art galleries. It could probably be listed under comedy, but it often deals with very serious subject matter so I say drama.
Also missing is Gene Yang's "American Born Chinese" which I think was one of the first comics on Modern Tales, and one was one the most successful webcomics in book form (it was a finalist for the National Book Award and won the Michael L. Printz Award).
Also, Derek Kirk Kim's "Same Difference and Other Stories" should be included. It won the Eisner, the Harvey, and the Ignatz Awards.
Greg
· 11 months ago
Just four words:
The Devil's Panties - comedy
timtylor
· 11 months ago
I won't try ranking it as I'm far too close to be objective, but I'd add Thomas Dye's Newshounds. Justification: Ursa Major Award 2007 for a print collection, long-running (2460 newspaper-format strips and 160 comicbook pages from November 1997 excluding extra book material), and still not deleted from Wikipedia. ;)
timtylor
· 11 months ago
Forgot - Newshounds under comedy.
Laura Kim
· 11 months ago
Some corrections / suggestions:
Fishtown is by Kevin Colden In His Likeness is by James Hatton Backstage is by Molly Crabapple Street Code is by Dean Haspiel Supertron is by Sheldon Vella Butternutsquash is by Ramon Perez The Devil's Panties is by Jennie Breeden
Bayou should also be listed higher - as it was Zuda's first title. Has achieved various nominations from the Glyph awards and has also been featured in Geek Monthly, Write Now, and Wired. Bayou is by Jeremy Love. It has also been praised by the likes of Gail Simone.
High Moon, which is listed, I think should be higher as it was the first Zuda winner (by popular vote) on one of their first titles, and has been written about in Wired, Rue Morgue, Geek Monthly, Comic Foundry, Wizard, Robot 6, Lines and Colors, Webcomic Overlook, ArtPatient, and Newsarama. Additionally, it was considered one of the best comics of 2008 by Daily Crosshatch and Robot 6. High Moon is by David Gallaher and Steve Ellis, by the way.
The Night Owls by the Timony Twins should be considered a comedy, not a drama.
Laura Kim
· 11 months ago
Also some of the respective urls your are missing include:
Also, Fishtown, which I listed earlier should be higher as it was a Xeric award winner, was featured on CBR, The Daily Cross Hatch, Philadelphia Weekly, Newsarama, Publisher's Weekly, and was recently published by IDW. The url is: http://act-i-vate.com/31.comic
Gus Higuera
· 11 months ago
Pretty awesome, great to see some of the Zuda comics being recognized.
Shannon Smith
· 11 months ago
American Elf but I would think it was more comedy than drama. Maybe you need an auto-bio/diary category. Anders Loves Maria for drama because it is the best. Paper Pusher for comedy because it is the funniest.
dern
· 11 months ago
AppleGeeks and Girls With Slingshots, while both funny, strike me as more drama. It’s the cast and their lives that are important, not the punchlines.
Dear Pirate is by Darren J. Gendron. It is not really a dramatic comic, as it’s the equivalent of Dear Abby being taken over by a pirate, only the pirate is made of clay. It is noteworthy in that it is the first webcomic to use polymer clay as its medium. It’s linked at www.DearPirate.com
The Experts’ Guide on How to Kill Things That Go Bump in the Night is by Darren J. Gendron and Robert Zailo. It is a drama comic, and is noteworthy as it was nominated for an Ignatz Award. It’s linked at www.ExpertsComic.com
I would suggest adding Batton Lash's "Supernatural Law" to the list (www.supernaturallaw.com). Batton took the characters from his long-running (since 1994) award-winning self-published comic book online in September 2005, and it has consistently been in the top 20 series on webcomicsnation ever since. Many of the storylines have been all new and in color for the web and have featured "ripped from the headlines" topics, from unconventional marriage ("The Life-Partner of Frankenstein") to Ann Coulter vs. Ted Rall ("How to Speak to a Mortal"). The strip won the Eagle Award for Best Webcomic in 2006. Batton has also successfully converted one of the online stories ("Weird Eye for the Normal Guy") to black-and-white printing, in "Mavis" #5, published by Exhibit A Press.
Jackie Estrada
· 11 months ago
I also don't see "Mom's Cancer" here. It was the first webcomic to win an Eisner and was subsequently published by Abrams in a highly successful hardbound book format.
Action, Ohio is fine. But, has it won any awards? What sort of critical acclaim has it garneredIs it really one of the *greatest* webcomics, or it is merely good? More of an explaination would be great.
neil kleid
· 11 months ago
Er... it hasnt won any awards, but is written by a Xeric Award winner, has been featured on Newsarama, in the Daily Oklahoman and came in second in it's month at Zudacomics.com. I'm not sure we've been around long enough to garner "critical acclaim" but then neither have a number of the comics on this list, so I figured "why not?"
Sam and Fuzzy by Sam Logan definitely needs to be on there, it was nominated three years in a row for outstanding black and white comic, and it's first year nominated for two other categories as well.
Moving Pictures by Stuart and Kathryn Immonen at http://www.immonen.ca/comics/ , Is quite a good dramatic web comic, It truly uses comics as an art form with a very theatrical mood, partially due to the striking use of lighting, and black and white use.
Ang
· 11 months ago
How about Imaginary Boys, Black Cherry Bombshells, We The Robots and Jesus and Mo?
It's criminal that Billy Dogma isn't on here.
timtylor
· 11 months ago
The Billy Dogma story "Fear My Dear" is there.
Laura Kim
· 11 months ago
>> How about Imaginary Boys, Black Cherry Bombshells, We The Robots and Jesus and Mo? >>
I don't mean to seem rude, and obviously - this isn't my list - but the rules are you have to:
- list the comic - list the creators - list the url - list the category - list why it should be listed (aside from the fact 'it's awesome')
james
· 11 months ago
I would probably throw White Ninja into the comedy pile. It's basically a pretty ridiculous 3-6 panel comic detailing the absurd adventures of a white ninja. It misses it's mark at times, but when it's on the sheer randomness is top notch hilarity.
NC
· 11 months ago
I'm surprised that Platinum Grit is not on here, it deserves to be at the top. Platinum Grit an amazing webcomic, drawn exceptionally well, with complex stories and perfect formatting for internet viewing. Plus, there is a reason why Image/Shadowline is putting out a trade print of the first set of issues! Also the webcomic is a multiple-time winner of the Ledger Award (award for Australian comics).
I would agree that High Moon should be a little higher. Though, it being in the Top 50 is pretty good. I found out about it by visiting the 'Thrilling Detective Website' which had a great write up about it.
Also, In His Likeness, by James Hatton is almost certainly a comedy.
Dear Pirate by Darren J. Gendron is also a comedy.
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Freak Angels by Warren Ellis is exceptional, but does it have historial significance? I'm not sure. It's a pretty solid steampunk webcomic though. I don't think it deserves to be #7. Certainly in the Top 50 in terms of craft, but it wouldn't crack my Top 10.
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DEMONOLOGY101 by Faith Erin Hicks ran here for 5 years: http://faith.rydia.net/ That's a pretty long-term and healthy run. And, in my opinion, should along place it in the Top 10 for Dramas.
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Astounding Space Thrills by Steve Conley should also be in the Top 10, which was syndicated for years on ComicCon certainly deserves a mention. The strip began as far back as 1996. Steve later wnet on to run and manage the site ComicCon.
Morgan Wick
· 11 months ago
I don't think the list is ranked yet.
Terrence Marks
· 11 months ago
Yes, I came here just to see if my comic was nominated, but since I'm here I second the Newshounds nomination (http://www.newshounds.com/). Newshounds is comedy, but Newshounds mark II is drama, so I'm not sure which it fits in.
If I could properly justify them, I'd be reviewing comics instead of writing them. Absurd Notions was an intellectual comic before intellectual comics were popular. The Class Menagerie and Newshounds influenced my writing, which is all I think a person can say about something.
Rebecca Connor
· 11 months ago
Oh,a few things:
SinFest is by Tatsuya Ishida Penny Arcade is by Tycho and Gabe, the alter egos of creators Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins Something Positive is by r*k*milholland
timtylor
· 11 months ago
I think Erfworld fits better under drama. There's comedy in it, of course - the outrageous pop references the gameworld's composed of - but in general it's a pretty straight dark story of people caught up in a war.
Calamities of Nature listed as one of the best DRAMA webcomics?! Is this a sign that the apocalypse is coming?
El Santo
· 11 months ago
Sequential Art is on the Drama list too, and I figured that to be more on the comedy side of the equation.
Rachel Keslensky - Last Res0rt
· 11 months ago
Last Resort (by Rachel Keslensky) http://www.lastres0rt.com Somewhere in the Drama Category I've heard several people heaping praise on me for the writing and coloring, and it was featured in one newspaper (as the cover story, no less!), so it's worth the look. :)
Scott Bieser
· 11 months ago
[url=http://www.bigheadpress.com/roswell]ROSWELL, TEXAS[/url] by L. Neil Smith, Rex F. May, Scott Bieser, Jen Zach; drama Time: 1947; place: an alternate Texas that had never joined the United States. Story: Texican President John Lindbergh sends a team of Texas Rangers to investigate a reported flying saucer crash near the far-western Texas town of Roswell. Familiar historical figures pop up in unexpected roles. Serialized in 2006-2007, collected trade published in 2008.
[url=http://www.bigheadpress.com/lamuse]LA MUSE[/url] by Adi Tantimedh and Hugo Petrus; drama Beautiful young left-wing activist is revealed to have god-like powers, because world-famous and decides to save humanity from itself. Her apparently-normal sister isn't so sure about this. Endorsed by Alan Moore. Serialized in 2007-2008, collected trade published in late 2008.
[url=http://www.bigheadpress.com/otr]ODYSSEUS THE REBEL[/url] by Steven Grant and Scott Bieser; drama A "re-think" of the Odyssey in which Odysseus stands up for reason and human self-determination against the gods. Serialized in 2008-2009.
[url=http://www.bigheadpress.com/eft]ESCAPE FROM TERRA[/url] by Sandy Sandfort and Scott Bieser, art by LEE OAKS! Anarchist "cowboys" in the Asteroid Belt contend with a grasping United World government from Earth. Continuing series launched in Septermber 2008.
Jennifer Brazas
· 11 months ago
I'd like to first off nominate Flipside by Brion Foulke (www.flipsidecomics.com) for the Drama category because, in addition to having some 1000 pages of comics and 3 self-published graphic novels, Brion's story is one of the best examples of American made manga on the internet. His art is incredibly detailed and expressive, and his pages are incredibly cinematic and beautiful. His story is really amazing and thought-provoking as well, causing us the reader to question our own beliefs on sexuality and morality.
And since the president has been set, I'd also like to nominate my own comic Mystic Revolution (www.mysticrev.com), at the very least for consideration. I guess it'd be drama, and my achievements/accomplishments are that I've got some 500 pages of manga online, self-published two books, and my art's gotten really awesome since I first started (and seriously, if you look at today's page compared with page 1 (especially since I'm doing a short remixed thing of the first couple pages right now) you'll see that there's a HUGE difference, and that in itself is a pretty awesome accomplishment). So yeah, just thought I'd throw my hat in there ^^;
But yes, definitely nominate Brion's comic, it's really incredible and more than worthy of being near the top of the drama list.
*In January of 2009, the comic blogging site Robot 6 named HIGH MOON "One of Our Favorite Comics of 2008":http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/01/our-favorite-comics-of-2008/#more-195
Also, if "popularity" is a criterion, then regardless of what you think of its quality, there's no way Ctrl+Alt+Del (comedy) doesn't belong if the comedy list is still in the process of expanding to 100. Wasn't only Penny Arcade more popular among undisputed webcomics the last time Comixtalk did a "most read/popular webcomics" list (if even that)? If nothing else, for better or worse, if most video game comics owe their existence to PA, they owe their form to CAD, and I suspect the constant bickering over CAD's quality or lack thereof has done a lot to improve the quality of webcomics in general.
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Accomplishments? It's the longest-running movie themed web comic online with over 900 comics to my credit. I've self-published two books, soon to release a third and I've been interviewed by this site more than a couple of times.
I'm not deluded enough to think I rank anywhere higher than 101. But dammit, I'm throwing my hat in the ring!
Eric Millikin's "Fetus-X"/"Eric Monster" comic. Not that I need to explain this because you just did an interview with him, but it's one of the most unique webcomics, it's critically acclamied, and it's one of the few webcomics to have been printed in newspapers and shown in art galleries. It could probably be listed under comedy, but it often deals with very serious subject matter so I say drama.
Also missing is Gene Yang's "American Born Chinese" which I think was one of the first comics on Modern Tales, and one was one the most successful webcomics in book form (it was a finalist for the National Book Award and won the Michael L. Printz Award).
Also, Derek Kirk Kim's "Same Difference and Other Stories" should be included. It won the Eisner, the Harvey, and the Ignatz Awards.
The Devil's Panties - comedy
Fishtown is by Kevin Colden
In His Likeness is by James Hatton
Backstage is by Molly Crabapple
Street Code is by Dean Haspiel
Supertron is by Sheldon Vella
Butternutsquash is by Ramon Perez
The Devil's Panties is by Jennie Breeden
Bayou should also be listed higher - as it was Zuda's first title. Has achieved various nominations from the Glyph awards and has also been featured in Geek Monthly, Write Now, and Wired. Bayou is by Jeremy Love. It has also been praised by the likes of Gail Simone.
High Moon, which is listed, I think should be higher as it was the first Zuda winner (by popular vote) on one of their first titles, and has been written about in Wired, Rue Morgue, Geek Monthly, Comic Foundry, Wizard, Robot 6, Lines and Colors, Webcomic Overlook, ArtPatient, and Newsarama. Additionally, it was considered one of the best comics of 2008 by Daily Crosshatch and Robot 6. High Moon is by David Gallaher and Steve Ellis, by the way.
The Night Owls by the Timony Twins should be considered a comedy, not a drama.
Bayou: www.zudacomics.com/bayou
High Moon: www.highmooncomic.com
Night Owls: www.zudacomics.com/the_night_owls
Supertron: www.zudacomics.com/supertron
Street Code: www.zudacomics.com/street_code
In His Likeness: www.inhislikeness.com
Backstage: http://act-i-vate.com/40.comic
Also, Fishtown, which I listed earlier should be higher as it was a Xeric award winner, was featured on CBR, The Daily Cross Hatch, Philadelphia Weekly, Newsarama, Publisher's Weekly, and was recently published by IDW. The url is: http://act-i-vate.com/31.comic
Anders Loves Maria for drama because it is the best.
Paper Pusher for comedy because it is the funniest.
Dear Pirate is by Darren J. Gendron. It is not really a dramatic comic, as it’s the equivalent of Dear Abby being taken over by a pirate, only the pirate is made of clay. It is noteworthy in that it is the first webcomic to use polymer clay as its medium. It’s linked at www.DearPirate.com
The Experts’ Guide on How to Kill Things That Go Bump in the Night is by Darren J. Gendron and Robert Zailo. It is a drama comic, and is noteworthy as it was nominated for an Ignatz Award.
It’s linked at www.ExpertsComic.com
In His Likeness is by James Hatton. It’s linked at http://www.inhislikeness.com/
Paradigm Shift is linked at http://www.webcomicsnation.com/dirktiede/ps/ser...
Notable for many reasons, including getting a cameo on Heroes
Gunnerkrigg Court is by Tom Siddell and is at http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/index2.php
Looking for Group is also what I’d call drama
Butternut Squash is by Ramon Perez and Rob Coughler and is at http://www.butternutsquash.net/
http://www.shadowlinecomics.com/webcomics/#/act...
http://webcomicoverlook.wordpress.com/2009/01/2...
http://io9.com/389345/neil-kleid-finds-action-a...
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=158374
Moving Pictures by Stuart and Kathryn Immonen at http://www.immonen.ca/comics/ , Is quite a good dramatic web comic, It truly uses comics as an art form with a very theatrical mood, partially due to the striking use of lighting, and black and white use.
It's criminal that Billy Dogma isn't on here.
I don't mean to seem rude, and obviously - this isn't my list - but the rules are you have to:
- list the comic
- list the creators
- list the url
- list the category
- list why it should be listed (aside from the fact 'it's awesome')
category: comedy
url: www.platinumgrit.com
wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platinum_Grit
authors: Trudy Cooper, Danny Murphy and Doug Bayne
And doing a quick google search turns up reviews like these:
http://weeklycomicbookreview.com/2008/05/06/moo...
http://webcomicoverlook.wordpress.com/2008/05/3...
http://www.schwapponline.com/2008/11/zuda-week-...
Plus, High Moon, Bayou, and Night Owls are in production for the Cartoon Network, which I think is pretty sweet:
http://www.mania.com/zuda-strips-headed-for-car...
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Also, In His Likeness, by James Hatton is almost certainly a comedy.
Dear Pirate by Darren J. Gendron is also a comedy.
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Freak Angels by Warren Ellis is exceptional, but does it have historial significance? I'm not sure. It's a pretty solid steampunk webcomic though. I don't think it deserves to be #7. Certainly in the Top 50 in terms of craft, but it wouldn't crack my Top 10.
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DEMONOLOGY101 by Faith Erin Hicks ran here for 5 years: http://faith.rydia.net/
That's a pretty long-term and healthy run. And, in my opinion, should along place it in the Top 10 for Dramas.
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Astounding Space Thrills by Steve Conley should also be in the Top 10, which was syndicated for years on ComicCon certainly deserves a mention. The strip began as far back as 1996. Steve later wnet on to run and manage the site ComicCon.
Also, I'd like to nominate:
The Class Menagerie - http://www.theclassm.com/ - drama
Absurd Notions - http://www.absurdnotions.org/ - comedy
If I could properly justify them, I'd be reviewing comics instead of writing them. Absurd Notions was an intellectual comic before intellectual comics were popular. The Class Menagerie and Newshounds influenced my writing, which is all I think a person can say about something.
SinFest is by Tatsuya Ishida
Penny Arcade is by Tycho and Gabe, the alter egos of creators Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins
Something Positive is by r*k*milholland
The Abominable Charles Christopher by Karl Kerschl (Both Drama and comedy? The great part is the mix.) - http://www.abominable.cc/
The Princess Planet by Brian McLachlan (Comedy) - http://theprincessplanet.com/
College Roomies From Hell by Maritza Campos (Comedy) - www.crfh.net
Rice Boy by Evan Dahm (Drama) - http://www.rice-boy.com/
I'm sure I'm missing a few other worthy comics.
http://www.lastres0rt.com
Somewhere in the Drama Category
I've heard several people heaping praise on me for the writing and coloring, and it was featured in one newspaper (as the cover story, no less!), so it's worth the look. :)
Time: 1947; place: an alternate Texas that had never joined the United States. Story: Texican President John Lindbergh sends a team of Texas Rangers to investigate a reported flying saucer crash near the far-western Texas town of Roswell. Familiar historical figures pop up in unexpected roles. Serialized in 2006-2007, collected trade published in 2008.
[url=http://www.bigheadpress.com/lamuse]LA MUSE[/url] by Adi Tantimedh and Hugo Petrus; drama
Beautiful young left-wing activist is revealed to have god-like powers, because world-famous and decides to save humanity from itself. Her apparently-normal sister isn't so sure about this. Endorsed by Alan Moore.
Serialized in 2007-2008, collected trade published in late 2008.
[url=http://www.bigheadpress.com/otr]ODYSSEUS THE REBEL[/url] by Steven Grant and Scott Bieser; drama
A "re-think" of the Odyssey in which Odysseus stands up for reason and human self-determination against the gods.
Serialized in 2008-2009.
[url=http://www.bigheadpress.com/eft]ESCAPE FROM TERRA[/url] by Sandy Sandfort and Scott Bieser, art by LEE OAKS!
Anarchist "cowboys" in the Asteroid Belt contend with a grasping United World government from Earth.
Continuing series launched in Septermber 2008.
And since the president has been set, I'd also like to nominate my own comic Mystic Revolution (www.mysticrev.com), at the very least for consideration. I guess it'd be drama, and my achievements/accomplishments are that I've got some 500 pages of manga online, self-published two books, and my art's gotten really awesome since I first started (and seriously, if you look at today's page compared with page 1 (especially since I'm doing a short remixed thing of the first couple pages right now) you'll see that there's a HUGE difference, and that in itself is a pretty awesome accomplishment). So yeah, just thought I'd throw my hat in there ^^;
But yes, definitely nominate Brion's comic, it's really incredible and more than worthy of being near the top of the drama list.
Abel at the Cubi Academy and All Hail Queen Mab.
You Say it First (comedy) because of <a
href='http://www.yousayitfirst.com/comics/index.php?date=20060609'>The Troublesome Trouble of Ms. Taylor and
The Troublesome Trouble of Kimberly Taylor-Adams.
Namir Deiter (drama) <a href='http://www.namirdeiter.com/comics/index.php?
date=20040119'>Reverse Revolution, Der Kommissar
and One Very Long Night.
Bruno the Bandit (comedy) because of <a
href='http://www.brunothebandit.com/d/19990816.html'>The Syndicate and <a
href='http://www.brunothebandit.com/d/20010924.html'>1001
and Lackadaisy (drama) because <a
href='http://lackadaisy.foxprints.com/comic.php?comicid=49'>you're holding not holding it right.
You Say it First (comedy) because of The Troublesome Trouble of Ms. Taylor and
The Troublesome Trouble of Kimberly Taylor-Adams.
Namir Deiter (drama) Reverse Revolution, Der Kommissar and One Very Long Night.
Bruno the Bandit (comedy) because of The Syndicate and 1001
and Lackadaisy (drama) because you're holding not holding it right.
*In December of 2008, HIGH MOON was named one of "The Best Damned Comics In 2008" by The Daily Cross Hatch:
http://thedailycrosshatch.com/2008/12/22/the-be...
*In January of 2009, the comic blogging site Robot 6 named HIGH MOON "One of Our Favorite Comics of 2008":http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/01/our-favorite-comics-of-2008/#more-195
*In February of 2009, the online news site webcomicgeek named HIGH MOON the best webcomic of 2008: http://webcomicgeek.com/2009/02/17/the-results-....